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Loyal readers of The Bigfootery Enquirer may remember that Keating popped up on our radar a month or so ago because of his soapboxing on inter-net bigfoot shows, in show chat-rooms and on his own show.  At first we just recognized the first name and his bigfootery handle as it seemed to pop up in many shows, but soon we were able to put together who it was.  We took little notice of him until a few  crucial pieces fell into place thanks to a comment sent in by one of the first Bigfootery Enquirer  reader/contributors who supplied a few leads.  We will get to that a bit later.

Keating proudly wears his moniker, The Bigfoot Bulldog.  I guess it represents his no nonsense bite your leg and hang on approach to bigfootery.  After finding his website, which is chock full of various bigfoot media for sale, and learning more about him,  The Bigfootery Enquirer has bestowed upon him the status of a fourth level “Bigfoot Researcher”.  Keating’s major claims to bigfootery fame is that he hosts a large annual conference for bigfooters and he has made an appearance upon Monster Quest.  In the episode of MQ in which he appears,  nothing significant was found, par for the MQ course, and a video he has sold was dubbed “blobby”.  Fortunately we were able to view the episode via youtube as, in general, MQ is just only a slightly more productive hour than listening to inter-net bigfoot shows.

When interviewing witnesses and reviewing sighting reports,  we find it beneficial to get the person to tell the story a few times so that we can look for red flags that the person is being less than honest, things like the tale growing as it is retold, new details, inconsistent details.  We also endeavor to learn of the person’s background and character and examine the possible motivations of the person reporting the incident.  All of these factors are then examined with an eye to establishing a feeling for the reliability of the story.  All to often there is no supporting evidence, shaky supporting evidence and no confirming witnesses and you are left with the quandary and issue of  witness voracity.  Unfortunately, Keating’s two sightings fall into this category.  Just some background how the staff of The Bigfootery Enquirer approach dealing with a sighting report on the rare occasion that we decide to investigate an incident.

Back to the question, has Keating seen a bigfoot- twice?  We shall begin with his own words, as reported by newspaper articles and blogs.  The latest coverage of Keating we found was from Heuvelmans blog.  The interview is part way down the first page at this point, here is the crucial questions and answers.

“I have seen Sasquatch on two occasions”

Interview mit Don Keating

 

 

 

Have you ever seen a sasquatch? Or experience something close to an encounter?
I have seen what I consider to be a Sasquatch on two occasions. September 15th, 1985 four miles south of Newcomerstown, Ohio and November 7th, 1987 in rural Coshocton County.
 

 

Can you tell me about the more recent sighting?

A fellow researcher and I were scouting the hillsides of CoshoctonCounty. We had gone there because there had been numerous reports of the “glowing eye” anomalies. At 5:18 p.m. as I was looking to the southwest, from the backside of a hill emerged a bipedal individual. It walked up a gradual incline of that hill as if it were walking on a city street. It never broke stride. It was every bit half as tall as the trees it was walking beside, putting it in the range of nine feet tall. The fellow who was withme was able to observeit from the distance of 400 yards (give or take) and confirmed what we were looking at was not a person.

I feel as if it was a very good sighting. I only wish I had a video camera with me. I was not able to purchase one at that time in my Bigfootingcareer as the price range of such equipment was above my budget.

We did not collect evidence, nor was there any to collect that we know of. We did not know exactly where the location was for two weeks. We were looking above high terrain and had a view you don’t normally have in the valley, hence, we were disorientated and had to do research to learn where this spot was exactly.

Now let’s look at older articles written about and quoting Keating.  Keating houses reprints at his website  if you want to read the whole article to assure the integrity of our quotations.

 Dave Golowenski For the Columbus Dispatch – 4/1/2001

Bigfoot researcher Don Keating was once within 35 feet of what he believes was the legendary Bigfoot.

On a September night of a withering Ohio summer, the shuffling sound of movement drew Don Keating’s attention to a frightfully tall, pale presence striding on two legs.

“It was about 10 in the evening. Something came down the hillside,” Keating said.

He watched the hair-covered biped make its way through a field toward a nearby chicken coop. As it walked, Keating noticed that the towering creature dwarfed the 4- foot-tall goldenrod being flattened as it passed.

“It was light in color, which I could see in the available moonlight,” Keating said. “I estimate it was about 8 or 9 feet tall. It walked very fluidly.”

The creature stopped, paused, then retreated from Keating’s view at a more urgent pace than it arrived. The encounter almost 16 years ago took 15 spellbinding seconds.

“I had a 35-millimeter camera around my neck with the flash turned on,” he said. “I was so astounded I never thought to take a picture.”

Nevertheless, the vision that occurred in 1985 about 4 miles southof his native Newcomerstown is indelibly imprinted in Keating’s memory. Shortly afterward, he and three companions, who all came that night looking for the same strange thing, measured the distance from where Keating stood watch to where the creature made its farthest advance toward the snoozing, unsuspecting chickens and one haunted human.

“At its closest, I was about 35 feet away,” Keating said.

Because of their separated stakeout positions, none of his three companions saw Bigfoot that night. Incredibly, Keating said he might have spotted another in the same general area of east-central Ohio.

“A couple of years after that we did see something walk up a hill,” he said. “It was moving pretty fast. It wasn’t nearly as good a look.”

Editorial Comment: The description given to Heuvelman is pretty detailed and enhanced from “It wasn’t nearly as good a look”, so it is mildly troubling in terms of the story is growing and inconsistent factors.  It is unfortunate that the three companions never saw anything and Keating did not use his readily available camera, troubling.  In the short time we have seen Keating in action on the inter-net shows as a caller and in the chat rooms, he has called out witnesses for far less transgressions.  But let’s continue.

Cleveland Plain Dealer – 4/27/2003

He believes he saw a Bigfoot in 1985 but has not seen one since despite investigating scores of sightings. He knows the mystery is further shrouded by hoaxers and the gullible who see Bigfoot behind every tree and in every bear track.

Editorial Comment:  Where did the second sighting go?  Did Keating not mention it, or did the reporter neglect it?  Troubling.   We continue. 

 Columbus Dispatch – 3/30/2004

At least once a month, Keating hikes through the local woods and hosts a study group.

”There’s a big difference between faking footprints and actually seeing the thing,” he said. “I’m not insane. I know what I saw. Once you see something like this, you never forget it.”

Editorial Comment: Pretty emphatic that he saw something, but again a chance to say he saw it twice was missed.  But not a big deal, don’t want to be accused of taking things out of context or staging an all out attack.  Note the “you never forget it” part for later reference.  And then we have this article from less than six months later.

Canton Repository -8/15/ 2004

Bigfoot Hunter Comes up Empty

“Of all the people I’ve talked to, and probably the thousands of hours that I’ve spent out in the woods,” said Keating, “there is still not one shred of evidence to positively prove that the creature exists.”

In 1985, according to newspaper accounts, Keating said he encountered a creature about four miles south of Newcomerstown.

“I’ve heard a lot of sounds and I’ve seen glimpses of things far off in the distance that you can’t identify,” Keating said. “So it doesn’t go down as positive proof of something that’s out there.”

He’s perhaps most fed up with the Bigfoot brethren.

“This will ruffle a few feathers, and frankly I don’t care,” Keating said. “There’s too many researchers out there who are at each other’s necks” and won’t share research.

“Some of them are just working toward the cause of building up their ego,” he said, whereas “finding the answer as to whether it does exist or does not exist has always been my goal.”

He’s still waiting to make the discovery that would shock the world.

But for now, Keating’s turned his ambition to finding a job in radio or meteorology. His Bigfoot group no longer meets monthly. He might not even attend his own conference next year.

“I’m just getting to the point where I’m fed up with it.”

Editorial Comment:  This quote completely left us saying WTF?  Note that the reporter is citing the previous articles and suddenly Keating’s ”35 feet”, “you never forget it” and “I know what I saw”  is  “glimpses” and “doesn’t go down as proof positive”.  We were left scratching our pointy heads in confusion and with serious reservations about the inconsistency.  As confusing was our experience that fabricated sighting stories generally become more detailed over time, which seemed to be the case with the latest Heuvelman interview, but was completely at odds with the about face in 2004.  It seemed that Keating was retreating from his assertions that he had no doubt he had seen a bigfoot, but why?

This is where our Midwest informer helped us to fill in some of the blanks, he wrote this when asked about the inconsistency and our confusion:

“During 2004 a group of persons in Ohio became disaffected and disenchanted with Keating and his antics.  They began holding meetings of persons interested in bigfoot at a location between Akron and Canton.  Those meetings were growing  and often attracted a crowd of 40 or more persons.  Keating was not happy with this new group, I think he felt threatened and the “donations” at his meeting were flagging.  I can provide you with a number of complaining emails and other things he was doing to discourage this growing alternative to his dominance of bigfooting in Ohio.  The Canton Repository article at that time was what I think was another one of those actions.  I think his goal was to especially discourage attendance by the general public by casting doubt about the subject and those that are interested in it.  Look at that article from that motivation and I think you will get it.”

Editorial Comment:  Well, OK, that does explain a motive for going from no doubt to serious doubts and no sighting.  So which version do we believe?  Or can we believe any of it?  Or perhaps those series of articles simply point out the pitfalls of dealing with the media and either seeking out journalists for interviews or accepting interview inquiries?  No matter what, given Keating’s statements on inter-net shows, his soapboxing and his attacks upon guests he feels are not providing proof of claims, it is the consensus of The Bigfootery Enquirer staff that this is beginning to smell and we may be on to something.

One of the things I mentioned at the beginning of this post is how we usually dig into the person’s character, their background and motivation as part of the process of determining the credibility of a witness.  Our informer north of the Mason – Dixon provided some insight on that issue as well.  About Keating’s honesty he wrote:

“Keating has been caught at least twice using an alias and lying about who he is to further his agenda.  In one case IP tracking led right back to his computer.  In another case it led to a computer listed to a company that employed his sister at that time.  The latter case was particularly vicious as he attempted to impersonate another bigfoot researcher and ask a nasty question to another noted researcher he was battling on one of the first internet radio shows.  I think he was trying to stir things up and drive a wedge between these two people as they were growing in bigfoot stature and involved in a new venture in bigfoot media.  There was also a measure of jealousy involved, Don loves to be in the media limelight.   When confronted he had no choice but admit it was him and say he had a right to do what he pleases and use alias if he wants.”

Editorial Comment:  Those emails and associated tracking information were forwarded to us, we have seen and read them, to the best of our knowledge they are the real deal.

So what have we found so far to asses the legitimacy of Don Keating’s claim he has seen a bigfoot twice?  I think one would have to agree there are some problems with consistency, growing and then shrinking the story and some instances of self serving dishonesty.  We are not ready to pronounce the situation as donkey doo doo just yet.  We are in the process of securing some more sighting specific information and some original documentation that has the potential to be very enlightening in answering this question.  We have some threads we are pulling at that you will want to hear about if they continue to unravel, we think.  So stay tuned for Part duo, but be patient this may take a few weeks before we publish.

Note:  Part II of a three part series is now up at.

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Just like last month’s dust up this one was brewing for many a year.  But this dust up is different in the sense that it involves one of the holy grails of bigfootery, dermal ridges.  Those second and higher level “Bigfooter Researchers” should be aware of the concept of dermal ridges, Chilcutt found them on casts and pointed to them as a characteristic that is not hoaxable, little known (at the time) and indicative of the real deal – a primate’s footprint.  Bigfootery was stirred to amazing heights with this news, a science based finding by a trained individual, it was one of the holy grails that was sought to legitimize bigfoot as a living, breathing, track-laying, moon-braying, sand bar sashaying, WOOOOOOO!!   Sorry, I think I was channeling the Nature Boy Ric Flair there for a moment.  Anyways, the discovery of dermal ridges was big news, finally another small slice  of science had dribbled into bigfootery.

But then came along a guy name Crowley…Mr. Crowley, dun, din, din, dun,  Opps, now channeling Ozzy.  Matt Crowley did some experimentation  and came to a different conclusion that was viewed by some as heresy, that the casting process could at times leave an artifact that looked surprisingly like said dermal ridges.  His conclusion was that a process called desiccation could create voids and cause the substrate supporting  the track to pull casting materials into ridges.  In the simplest terms, desiccation is the process where water is wicked out of a substance, in this case casting materials, compacts the remaining solids in the casting material, and thus creates a ridge like effect.

And now cue  Mellissa Hovey, a gal set on rising to the heights of bigfootery in the fastest of ways.  Some called her a groupie, she seemed to gravitate to fourth level “Bigfoot Researchers” and attempt to wow them in various ways.  Readers may remember Hovey from her involvement in the 2008 Top Bigfootery stories, especially the one entitled SEX.   In my opinion, Hovey set out to use the dermal issue as a notch in her bigfoot belt, after all discrediting someone who had brought doubt to one of the holy grails of bigfootery would be quite an accomplishment.    Good for bigfootery street cred, raise her visibility and popularity, a triple threat.  Her spin on this is that she wanted to learn and do the science, but experiments with an agenda, a desired conclusion and lack of direct replication is not science.

Hovey began posting a series of articles on her findings, parts of which no longer see the light of day in the internet world, even when various cache and archiving sites are referenced to dig them up.  For example, the links in the italics section below do not work, and that particular website blocks archiving bots.  Her conclusions were that she could not replicate the same artifacts of Crowley, therefore his methodology must have been flawed.  Certain tribes of bigfootery celebrated her pseudoscience and conclusion as taking the tarnish off the grail and restoring it to grandeur.   Squatchapedia, a so-so attempt to do a wiki for sasquatch, heralded: AIBR/TBRC member Melissa Hovey endeavored to replicate Crowley’s described procedures, but was unable to obtain the same results, as described in brief articles here and here

Crowley countered pointing out deficiencies in her methodology, logic  and conclusions.  Others attempted his experiment and replicated the results, one even found the features in other casts.  Others found artifacts in casts she claimed did  not have them.  Uh oh, the plan to remove the tarnish had not worked, in fact it had attracted others to do replication and study casts,  instead of “casting”  aside doubts they were growing deeper and wider.

And then things got strange, even for the world of bigfootery.  Hovey resulted to accusations of dishonesty against Crowley, par bigfootery spin when on the attack.  There was even questions of how Crowley acquired volcanic materials and if he had violated law by collecting those materials.  Crowley put an end to the latter accusation by producing sales receipts, catalogs and the like.  The hissing continued, with Hovey first attempting to clarify and claim the high ground, then vowing she was done with the subject, attempting to throw the victim card on the table, and then returning to the debate on her own forum in a matter of  a day or two. 

Has the dust settled?  Nope, sides are being picked.  Name calling has escalated, at least among the Hoveyites, and mud (not sure if it is made of authentic onion mountain soil)  is fully being slung.  

My bottom line on dermal ridges, Crowley and others have demonstrated a problem with the casting process.  This problem can be overcome with a sealant spray.  My perspective on the science aspect is that saying artifacts that look like dermal ridges and dermal ridges can exist on the same cast, while possible, will be torn to shreds by critical thinkers.  After all, is there an expert who can tell the difference and want to defend their ability to make that distinction? 

And that is February’s dust up.  Bigfootery gold already, and it is not played out (a prospector term) yet.

Here’s Crowley’s articles.

Here’s Hovey’s articles.

Discussion posts from Crowley are here.

Hovey’s bigfootery gold posts are here, read deep and into the second page for the good stuff. 

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We at The Bigfootery Enquirer are not being total goof offs in our mission to report upon the people of bigfootery.  The dust up of the month article is partially complete, and one of our correspondents is working on a good expose’ concerning a fourth level “Bigfoot Researcher”.  Having seen some of the evidence, this particular article will perhaps raise some eyebrows in the heartland if some critical, independent thinking can take root.  Some of the evidence is audio, so we are studying if we invest the extra $’s in hosting to post the clips in this blog, or if we extract and find another free host for them.  The Bigfootery Enquirer runs on a budget of nothing, and we want to keep it that way so as not to get sullied by the bigfootery bucks bug.  Donations will be returned with a terse note saying leave us alone but consider sending the donation to an animal rescue group.

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Everyone at The Bigfootery Enquirer were slackers last week in terms of listening to the inter-net talk shows.  One has to wonder if this shows:

  • just how big of slackers we are
  • that we have our priorities in life in some reasonable order, or that we simply have lives
  • that the bulk of these shows are essentially unlistenable and boring
  • that we are not the popular kids in school, that we either have unremarkable bigfootery handles or we listen as guests and are therefore essentially anonymous to the dozen or so regulars to this niche market
  • that it is some combination of the above

Maybe we will do better next week, but somehow it seems once you miss a few of these shows and do something, anything (in my case it was pullin dents and stippin paint), returning to them is even harder.

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bigfootresearcher Carnie S Abarker

Dateline: Harrisburg, PA.  3/3/09

Earlier today Carnie S Abarker, famous bigfoot researcher, noted merchandiser of all things sasquatch and a member of the school board in an “undisclosed location” , appeared before the Pa. House Select Committee on School Effectiveness to advocate a change in state curriculum requirements.  Abarker proposed that all school children receive training in peddling skills as part of the vocational component that all high school students undergo.

“Kids need to learn how to peddle stuff like booklets, videos and trinkets if they want to thrive as a noted bigfoot researcher”, said Carnie.  “They should know all the skills I use, especially hyping, hawking and self promotion”, he continued.  He implored to the committee, “Look at me, I’m getting old and can only re-release the same old material five times, we need to prepare the next generation to carry on the tradition of sasquatch scammers; they are going to need to learn these skills to supplement their menial jobs, if they have one at all”.  His comments were met with a mixture of skepticism and giggles.

Carnie Abarker did get some needed support later in the day.  Sal A Lemon, of the US Association of Used Car Salesmen, issued a press release later in the day advocating the ideas put forth by Abarker.  It read, in part, the used car salesmen association supports the sasquatch scammers in their drive to get peddling introduced as part of the school curriculum.  These guys share our values and sales tactics and our hats are off to anyone who can sell that kind of stuff with a clean conscience, truly we are cut from that same great american cloth.

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The struggles to find a reliable critical thinker to do the weekly show wrap up continues.  This week’s volunteer was a real slacker, but I can understand that the task is tedious most of the time.  So here goes.

The Bigfoot Field Guide- Archive listening can be fun.  Sometimes stuff slips out that is not expected as they prep for the guest.  And sometimes the less than second level “Bigfoot Researcher”  knowledge comes out (unsure who John Green is); showing that having a show is simply a matter of having internet access and the ego to try it, on this I agree with the Editor, Founder, Chairman, et. al of  The Bigfootery Enquirer.  Thom Powell was the guest.   His experiences have led him to some conclusions that are unique, and he is a riverman, which is near and dear to the hearts of the staff of The Bigfootery Enquirer.   The first segment was billed as being informational for beginning researchers, ironic, these folks sound like beginners.  But then they used tips from The Bigfootery Enquirer, offensive.  There was good use of bigfootery  slang and some nice screen names. Copy writing for the MABRC site was poor in their commercials, claiming the largest database may be a bit misleading as they collect from others, perhaps the claim should be the largest collection of scalped reports.  Finally the guest came on and fortunately carried the day.  A fiction book on the way.  Funny, he mentioned Franzoni, the hosts had no clue.   Thom was good, and that half hour of the show made the other hour, I actually did some fast forwards, almost worth it.  He did engage in double speak, such as the logical conclusion is there is no conclusion.  He also picked up on bigfoot repellent, camera monitoring.

Bigfoot Live- Biscardi listens to Motown, and is excellent every day.  What hype.  A 60 something guy using the terms baby, brother, man and dude, “off the hook”.  Tom was busy writing up contracts, rumor has it he had to pick up that work after Kull’s departure.  Hints at all kinds of big stuff, but he deflected specifics.  He has bucks for a personal assistant, so things must not be too bad for Searching for Bigfoot, Inc.  It might be my PMS, but after three toots on that damn horn I was ready to toss my laptop.  Oh lord now a shout out where Biscardi said he would rub a chicks chest to make her feel better.  Tom is melancholy and wants to be left alone I’m fine with that.  Promoting two hard hitting pictures and I was dumb enough to go there.  Blobsquatches.   Funny, the website says recent activity but the guest said the photo was from 2007.  Liar, liar pants afire.   Sorry, this volunteer is bailing out even without hearing why Biscardiis sad, the guest are BS’ers.  Now they are backpedaling on a thermal picture that was debunked during the January dust up.   Biscardi then embarked upon pontificating on thermal.  Two videos within 30 days of release, more hype.  BOYCOT! And then, I turned off the darn show.

Squatchdetective -What would be a wrap up that covers Biscardi but leaves out Kulls?  With his big blog post “busting open” the Ga. hoax, my expectations were good.  By the way,  that post was weak and quit saying you were deceived with an email, he simply cannot read.  Based upon that post, grammar, spelling and composition are also challenges for the detective.  Another co-host, I think.  He found humor with the chimp attack, then he called the face transplant the first in the US.  Simply uninformed.  He continued to laugh about that situation.  Left in disgust after 15 minutes or so.  Kulls is full of it, but he has the ability to google stuff about chimps, such intellect.

Editor’s note: Wow, someone was in a bad mood, or listening to these shows can be detrimental to the mental outlook of a mostly normal person.  Usually she has a sunny disposition and can find the good in the worst of days.  I prescribed a mild dose of alcohol and promised not to draft her for this task again, which seemed to soothe the situation.

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